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Monday October 4th 2004

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and the postintro div i was thinking of (for now) is just something really simple, so that we can place text above the posts and below the breadcrumb if we need to.
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9.) there is a JS error on the page. Doesn't seem like a problem, but we want to make sure everyone can use this menu...
10.) Can you bold (or something) each of the topics, to better distingish them from the threads that go underneath?
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New group forms will be for later, because otherwise I wood explood, and we msut set priorities for launch. Right now I do it manually. You add a group row in talk_groups and then the appropriate row in the talk_permissions table or whatever it's called, so you can access it...
You should also:
8) Get the thesheepthing.com/lazspace/political REFERAL page ready to go, reading "Get ready for the new and improved Discussthing, or wahtever doode." So we can do the switcheroo really fast... Also must check Old db to make sure than no one has logged on and is in the process of making a post...
Yeah multiple topics = key. Speaking of "to do," eventually I want another form of post beyond essay, firstpost, commentpost... Worklists! Essentially, allow users to enter items in a list of X columns... Image a "Potential Allies" worklist/thread in the Excom. Eventually, also polls, etc...
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I want to have an opening essay for the excom too, so I can kind of layout the agenda, or "monkey-plan" as I call it. So maybe in the database there will be a field that let's you mark one post per group as the descriptor. Will also make that link at the top.
If you make a special div for that, and when you make the daymarker div, be sure to tell me what the name of the ID is, so I can use the right one in PHP.
I probably got a new rube for both discussthing and the excom, a guy I work with named David, who's cool. In light of this, are we going to have that scary graphic at the top? I'm just wondering so I can make judgements about who to invite. Seems like each time they keep getting creepier...
Post-Intro div is a great idea. We should do that soon, but remember our primary goal is to get the basic functionality up and running, and add bells and whistles later. I'm all for that idea, though. Try to design it like the tabs in thesheepthing.com/portfolio... Or at least so the CSS could be adopted to look like that...
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And I think we need a postintro div, just below the breadcrumb, where we have the option to put text like "Most Recent Posts" "Recent Posts from all your groups" (postintro div). I will add this to the css, and it only needs to be drawn on top of the home pages.
so I have a few more for now
(ryan)
6) switch first posts off of essay default
7) add essay listing into javascript
8) cut off topics, threads, and essays after 15(?) in the javascript, with link to "see all...". maybe not topics, we'll see what makes sense after we try it.
9) add postintro div to php (but not in regular post areas, only when you drawing the "most recent" postings. if that distinction is dificult then let me know and we can put the postintro on every page)
(laz)
7) add postintro+graphics to css
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And what I would like to do for the "discussthing intro" is have it be an essay post just like the others, with comments welcome, but I want the link to be within the page header, and it should say "this is discussthing." and be wrapped it in its own div tag (intro), just for more flexibility. The post itself will be in with the others, it will just have this additional link to it. sound good?
To Do: (sorry, but I really need to have an updated one or I forget)
(ryan)
1) Put main footer outside mainbody in php
2) add daymarker to php
3) add boolean array for javascript expanded nodes
-----(it will definitely need that)
4) add intro div and "this is discussthing" link to php
5) fix multiple drawing of posts on hom page
(laz)
1) put gif arrows back into javascript
2) add daymarker to css
3) clean up main discussthing graphics
-----a) footer should have smooth transition
-----b) daymarker graphics
4) update excom css (not a priority until main discussthing site is done)
5) make discussthing intro
6) update structure page to reflect new additions, and try to finalize structure for maximum flexibility (with help from ryan)
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My hypothesis is that you have more than one "right" the this group, and I only have the "owner" status. I changded this over the weekend while playing with the rights and privleges. I bet you $10 that's it.
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Sunday October 3rd 2004

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i cleaned up the site of junk, but i ddint empty the trash because I though you might want to back u some of the things we've posted over the last few months.
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footer still fucked... its gotta just be missing a few end div tags.
I'll remove all the superfluous stuff right now. I think most of everything is set up besides the skins for the different groups. we have our javascript folder, our users folder, our skins folder, our group icons folder... i dont know what else we need.
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Saturday October 2nd 2004

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Must fix the aggregate page. It doesn't seem to show the last three days if there was nothing within three days...
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Perhaps you can tell I am testing duplicates testing duplicates testing duplicates testing duplicates testing duplicates testing duplicates testing duplicates testing duplicates
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Perhaps you can tell I am testing duplicates testing duplicates testing duplicates testing duplicates testing duplicates testing duplicates testing duplicates testing duplicates
Go to: Opening Site up the Public

Perhaps you can tell I am testing duplicates testing duplicates testing duplicates testing duplicates testing duplicates testing duplicates testing duplicates testing duplicates
Go to: Opening Site up the Public

Perhaps you can tell I am testing duplicates testing duplicates testing duplicates testing duplicates testing duplicates testing duplicates testing duplicates testing duplicates
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Yeah, the refresh posting is a problem. Here's a good old fashioned programming problem for you: how to prevent this? It won't work to simply check the database for duplicates and not allow them. (That permits you to say simple things (like "test") only once. Yet the unpon resubmission, PHP doesn't have a way to destroy the variable triggering the post function... This is actually a heavily documented and common PHP issue.
No, Laz, we're on the same page: Muslims do deserve death. Wait, you said death, not freedom, right? This reminds me of my job at fairvote.org this week, when I had to make a photoshop chart explaining how instant run off voting works, and for fun, at the bottom of the flowchart, where all the steps lead to was a box reading: WHITE MALE ASSURED OF VICTORY. I guess they didn't think that was as funny as I did.
Transparent gifs: use PS's save for web. Make sure "Transparency" is checked, and then you have to choose the right interlace whatever the fuck it is, I think it's "Perceptual" or "Pattern." You know EXACTLY what I'm talking about.
Maybe tonight (oh who am I kidding, I have nothing else to do...) I will try to plug some of the security holes with the GateKeeper function and work on some of the mundane things like NewUser(). Also want to fix this refresh bullshit. Perhaps before we truly go live we should get a third person in on this to Beta test, and find flaws we haven't?
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if she wants a new one, she'll just have to email me one.
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if she wants a new one, she'll just have to email me one.
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1) yes, I forgot about the date divider, I'll make that div
2) The problem here is the transition from the last post to the footer graphic. Maybe bet to just changes the footer graphic, but it wont be as smooth as if we had a special "last post" div. nah, in purist form I'll just monkey with the footer graphic, maybe get rid of my special tree.
3) Sorry I am not sure what you mean.
4) the beauty of it is, every skin can have its own way
5) The img tag has its own div, I just havent updated the excom css yet. fear ye not.
6) stupid boxes. actually I need your help with that: we need transparent gifs and I cant seem to make them (i noticed you were able with the group pictures, but it didnt work when i saved a gif with an alpha channel). the arrows will not be controlled by the css, so we need to make them compatible with all skins. The current graphics are downarrow.jpg and arrow.jpg, and are defined in the javascript file tree_format.js
7) sounds good. footer is a good place for a nice little logo and a disclaimer about jews or something.
8) Maybe... it would also be cool if it were a featured link at the "home" section, maybe above the most recent posts.
9) I disagree, I think Muslims do deserve freedom.
The javascript thing should work fine: it doesnt look at the nesting, only the placement of nodes in their html order. i.e. it counts through all the nested ones before moving on. Its true, I think the best you can do (unless we find something radically diferent) is open what should be open, rather than the last state the user had.
The essay topic editor is a good idea. also something maybe for the future: i would like to be able to edit posts for grammatical errors and typos. not necessary right now, but it would be good long term to have the ability wthout going into the slow, slow, slow, database itself.
and I noticed the div sructure of this thread is a bit off in the html: the footer is inside the mainbody div.
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Friday October 1st 2004

1. Added groupimage div. Making shadows with CSS was a truly great idea. I COMMEND THEE.
2. Check out how users will be able to append more topics to their essays. A form will appear in this post itself if you are the original essay-writer. Doesnt work yet though.
3. Also now when you click on a post from the aggregate page you jump right to that post, not to the top, as in the old laz.cc setup.
Some comments
1. Still need a date divider header for grouping posts by day. (Could be useful for other things later, too.)
2. Seems the footer graphic still has at the top what the sp_footer div is supposed to do.
3. What am I doing wrong in the commentform tags? (Bottom fucked up)
4. This may be a better way to do shadows with CSS: http://www.thesheepthing.com/bobinvite/
5. Also, the DIV does not yet override the size of the button. (See the current excom.) I believe the img tag itself will need an ID for that...
6. Still are funny boxes where the JS arrows used to be.
7. I dont think we should put the discussthing logo on all sites. But the footer shoudl definately read: Powered by DiscussThing or something, and maybe a mini-logo there.
8.Should the DiscussThing Descriptionn simply be a prominent essay in the usual topic list?
Finally...
I think this is coming along really well. I like the way you redid the xml structure. This site will kick serious ass when done. The possibilities are almost endless!!! I am now being kicked out of this internet cafe.
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I tried putting the "Go to" button in the footer but it didn't go.
I agree about waiting for the large posts, but I put that one up there (as vague and poorly formed/written as it was) just to generate some reactions. I think we are succeeding at drumming up activity, actually.
Not sure how the PHP will work with the JS yet... Since everything is nested, it doesn't work so well to count the nodes sequentially... But maybe I am wrong. Also, when you click on the JS, it has no way of notifying the PHP. The most I could do is keep the appropriate group open... More Later.
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